“ဖေယာင္းတုိင္ နဲ႔ ေဒါက္တုိင္”

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ၿပီးခဲ့တဲ့ ၾကသေပးေတး မနက္ပုိင္း ႐ုံးေရာက္လုိ႔ ကြန္ျပဴတာဖြင့္၊ အီးေမးလ္စစ္လုိက္ေတာ့ ဂၽြန္႔ဆီက အီးေမးလ္တေစာင္ေရာက္ေနတာကုိ ေတြ႕ရတယ္။

ဂၽြန္ဆုိတာ ေဒါက္တာခ်ီးတုိ႔ စကၤာပူ ဒီမုိကရက္ပါတီက အမႈေဆာင္တေယာက္ေပါ႔။ အရင္ႏွစ္က စကၤာပူမွာလုပ္ခဲ့တဲ့ ဖုိရမ္တခုမွာ က်ေနာ္ သူ႔နဲ႔ စတင္သိကၽြမ္းတာပါ။ အင္တာနက္စာမ်က္နွာေပၚမွာေတာ့ သူ႕ကုိ ျမင္ဘူးေနတာ၊ သူေရးတဲ့ ေဆာင္းပါးေတြကုိ ဖတ္ဖူးေနတာ ၾကာပါၿပီ။

သူ႕ေမးလ္ထဲမွာ ဂၽြန္က ညဘက္က်ရင္ ေလာေလာဆယ္ အက်ဥ္းက်ခံေနရတဲ့ ေဒါက္တာခ်ီးရဲ႔ညီမ မစၥခ်ီး အတြက္ ဖေယာင္းတုိင္ထြန္း ဆုေတာင္းပြဲတခု လုပ္မယ္။ ေနရာက ခ်န္ဂီအမ်ဳိးသမီး အက်ဥ္းေထာင္ေရွ႕။ ည ၇ နာရီခြဲကေန ၁၁ နာရီအထိ။ အဲဒီ ဆုေတာင္းပြဲမွာ က်ေနာ္နဲ႔ က်ေနာ့္မိတ္ေဆြေတြ လာႏုိင္ရင္ လာေရာက္ပူးေပါင္းဘုိ႔ ဖိတ္ေခၚထားပါတယ္။

အဲဒီအခ်ိန္ထိ စကၤာပူမွာ က်ေနာ္တုိ႔ လႈပ္ရွားခဲ့သမွ်ဟာ ျမန္မာ့အေရးသက္သက္ အတြက္ဘဲ။ စကၤာပူႏုိင္ငံေရးမွာ ေဒါက္တာခ်ီးတုိ႔ ပါတီကုိ က်ေနာ္အားေပးေထာက္ခံတာ၊ ၿပီးခဲ့တဲ့ ေရြးေကာက္ပြဲက သူတုိ႔ မဲဆြယ္ပြဲေတြမွာ သြားနားေထာင္တာ၊ သူေရးတဲ့စာအုပ္ေတြ၊ လူ႔အခြင့္အေရးတီရွပ္ေတြ ရန္ပုံေငြအတြက္ ေရာင္းတဲ့အခါ ၀ယ္ယူအားေပးတာ၊ တခါတေလ အလွဴေငြ ထည့္တာေလာက္ကလြဲလုိ႔ သူတုိ႔နဲ႔ အတူ လက္တြဲၿပီး ထူးထူးျခားျခား လႈပ္ရွားမႈအေနနဲ႔ မလုပ္ခဲ့ဖူးဘူး။

အရင္ႏွစ္ကေတာ့ ကြာလတီဟုိတယ္မွာ SG Human Rights အဖြဲ႕က ဦးေဆာင္လုပ္တဲ့ လူ႕အခြင့္အေရးဖုိရမ္ကုိ သြားတက္တာ၊ ေနာက္ အျပည္ျပည္ဆုိင္ရာ လူ႔အခြင့္အေရးေန႔ အထိမ္းအမွတ္အျဖစ္ မ႐ူး၀ါးအဖြဲ႕က လုပ္ခဲ့တဲ့ Burma On My Mind ဆုိတဲ့ တံဆိပ္ကေလးေတြနဲ႔ လက္ကမ္းစာေစာင္ေလးေတြ ျဖန္႔ေ၀တဲ့ လႈပ္ရွားမႈမွာ ပူးေပါင္းပါ၀င္ခဲ့တာ၊ Speaker's corner မွာလုပ္တဲ့ လူ႕အခြင့္အေရးေန႔ အထိမ္းအမွတ္ပြဲေတြကုိ သြားနားေထာင္တာတုိ႔ေတာ့ ရွိသေပါ႔။

အဲဒီေန႔က ဂၽြန္ရဲ႕ စာကုိရေတာ့ က်ေနာ္ သြားမယ္လုိ႔ ဆုံးျဖတ္လုိက္တယ္။ က်ေနာ့္ဇနီးကလည္း က်ေနာ့္လုိဘဲ။ မ်ဳိးျမင့္ေမာင္၊ ကိုေဂ်မုိးနဲ႔ ကိုေလး တုိ႔ကို ေျပာျပေတာ့လည္း မဆုိင္းမတြပါဘဲ။

အဲဒီလုိနဲ႔ ညေန ၇ နာရီ ၄၀ မိနစ္ မွာ က်ေနာ္တုိ႔ ငါးေယာက္သား ခ်န္ဂီ အမ်ဳိးသမီး အက်ဥ္းေထာင္ေရွ႕ကုိ ေရာက္သြားပါေတာ့တယ္။ ဟုိမွာ က်ေနာ္တုိ႔အရင္ ေရာက္ႏွင့္ေနတဲ့ လူေတြကိုလည္း ေတြ႕ရတယ္။

မီးထြန္းေတာ့ ဆီမီးခြက္လုိ ဖေယာင္းတုိင္အ၀ုိင္းေလးေတြကို တခါသုံး ပလပ္စတစ္အၾကည္သားခြက္ ထဲကုိထည့္၊ ၿပီးေတာ့ မီးဖုိေခ်ာင္သုံး ႏႈတ္သီးရွည္ ဓါတ္ေငြ႕မီးျခစ္နဲ႔ ထြန္းညႇိရတယ္။ အဲဒီ အုိင္ဒီယာက လွတယ္။ ဖေယာင္းတုိင္အ၀ုိင္းဟာ ပလပ္စတစ္ခြက္ထဲေရာက္ေနေတာ့ မီးပုံးလုိျဖစ္သြားၿပီး အျမင္လည္းဆန္းတယ္၊ ေလတုိက္လည္း မၿငိမ္းေတာ့ဘူး။ အဲဒီ ဖေယာင္းတုိင္မီးေတြကုိ ထြန္းၫႇိၿပီးေတာ့ အက်ဥ္းေထာင္ အ၀င္ ပလက္ေဖာင္း တဖက္တခ်က္မွာ စီတန္းၿပီး ခ်လုိက္ၾကတယ္။ ၿပီးေတာ့ လာတဲ့လူေတြ ခဏတျဖဳတ္ အခ်င္းခ်င္း စကားစျမည္ေျပာၾကတာေပါ႔။


ေဒါက္တာခ်ီးရဲ႕ အမ်ဳိးသမီး (တုိင္၀မ္သူ) နဲ႔ သူ႕ကေလး သုံးေယာက္ကုိလည္း ေတြ႕ရတယ္။ အင္မတန္ခ်စ္စရာ ေကာင္းတဲ့ ကေလးေတြဘဲ။ သားအငယ္ဆုံးေလးက အဲသည္လုိ မီးထြန္းပြဲသြားရတာကုိ အရမ္းေပ်ာ္သတဲ့။ အႀကီးဆုံးမေလးက အရမ္းသိတတ္တယ္။ အငယ္ႏွစ္ေယာက္ကုိလည္း အရမ္းဂ႐ုစုိက္တယ္။ ေဒါက္တာခ်ီးအမ်ဳိးသမီးကလည္း အေမရိကားက ပီအိတ္ခ်္ဒီဘြဲ႕ရထားတဲ့ သူဘဲ။ သူတုိ႔ခ်င္း အဲဒီမွာ ေက်ာင္းတက္ရင္း စေတြ႕ခဲ့ၾကတာတဲ့။ ဟိတ္ဟန္မရွိဘဲ အင္မတန္ ခင္မင္ဘြယ္ေကာင္းတဲ့ အမ်ဳိးသမီး တေယာက္ပါဘဲ။ သူမ ရံဖန္ရံခါ ေရးတတ္တဲ့ ေဆာင္းပါးေလးေတြဟာ က်ေနာ့္မိတ္ေဆြ ဘေလာ့ဂါ “တန္ခူး” ေရးတဲ့ စာစုေလးေတြလုိဘဲ။ ႐ုိး႐ုိးေလးနဲ႔ ႏွစ္လုိဘြယ္ေကာင္းတယ္။ လူသားဆန္တဲ့ အေတြးအေခၚေလးေတြ၊ နူးညံ့တဲ့ စိတ္ကူးေလးေတြကုိ ဆြဲေဆာင္မႈရွိရွိ ေျပေျပျပစ္ျပစ္နဲ႔ ေရးသားေဖာ္ျပတတ္တယ္။

ေနာက္ၿပီး အဲဒီေန႔ကမွ အာမခံနဲ႔ ျပန္လြတ္လာတဲ့ အေမရိကန္ႏုိင္ငံသားခံယူထားတဲ့ ဂုိပါလန္နဲ နဲ႔လည္း ေတြ႕လုိက္ရတယ္။ သူက လီကြမ္းယူသားအဖနဲ႔ ေဒါက္တာခ်ီးေမာင္ႏွမတုိ႔ရဲ႕ အမႈမွာ မတရားဘက္လုိက္တဲ့ စကၤာပူတရား႐ုံးနဲ႔ တရားသူႀကီးကုိ ေ၀ဖန္ၿပီး အင္တာနက္ေပၚကေန သူ႔နာမည္၊ တည္းခုိတဲ့ ဟုိတယ္လိပ္စာေတြကုိ ေဖာ္ျပၿပီး “သူ႕ကုိ အသေရဖ်က္မႈနဲ႔ စြဲရဲရင္စြဲစမ္း” ဆုိၿပီး လီကြမ္းယူတုိ႔ သားအဖကုိ စိန္အေခၚေကာင္းလုိ႔ ျပည္သူ႕၀န္ထမ္းကုိ ေစာ္ကားမႈနဲ႔ စြဲခ်က္တင္ၿပီး ရဲစခန္းမွာ ၃-၄ ညေလာက္ လုိက္အိပ္လုိက္ရတဲ့ ပုဂၢဳိလ္ေပါ႔။ သူ႕အမႈက အခုထိ ႐ုံးမတင္ရေသးဘူး။ ပတ္စ္ပုိ႔ကုိေတာ့ သိမ္းထားလုိက္တယ္တဲ့။

အဲဒီေန႔က မျပန္ခင္မွာ ေဒါက္တာခ်ီးတုိ႔ ေမာင္ႏွမပုံ ဓါတ္ပုံႀကီးေတြ ကုိင္ၿပီး ဓါတ္ပုံစု႐ုိက္ျဖစ္တယ္။

ေနာက္တရက္ျဖစ္တဲ့ ေသာၾကာေန႔ညကေတာ့ ကြင္းစ္ေတာင္း ရမန္အက်ဥ္းေထာင္ေရွ႕မွာ ေဒါက္တာခ်ီးအတြက္ မီးသြားထြန္းၾကတယ္။ အဲဒီညက အက်ဥ္းေထာင္ေရွ႕ပင္မ၀င္ေပါက္နဲ႔တည့္တည့္ ပလက္ေဖာင္းေပၚမွာ မီးေတြကုိ စီတန္းထြန္း၊ ဓါတ္ပုံေတြ ကုိင္ၿပီး စီတန္းထုိင္ ဆႏၵျပ႐ုံမက ျပန္ကာနီးမွာ နာမည္ေက်ာ္ Protest Song ျဖစ္တဲ့ We Shall Overcome ကုိ သံၿပဳိင္သီဆုိခဲ့ၾကတယ္။

ျမန္မာ့အေရးမဟုတ္ဘဲ သူမ်ားအေရးမွာ ဘာေၾကာင့္သြားပတ္သက္ရသလဲ။ စကၤာပူ အစုိးရဟာ သူ႕ႏုိင္ငံအေရးမွာ အတုိက္အခံေတြနဲ႔ ပတ္သက္လာရင္ ဘယ္တုန္းကမွ မညႇာခဲ့ေတာ့ အခုလုိ အတုိက္အခံေတြဘက္က သြားေရာက္အားေပးတဲ့ အလုပ္ကုိ လုပ္ျခင္းဟာ အေျမာ္အျမင္ရွိတဲ့ လုပ္ရပ္ ဟုတ္ပါ႔မလား။....လုိ႔ ေမးခ်င္ၾကမယ္ထင္ပါတယ္။

စကၤာပူမွာ က်ေနာ္တုိ႔ လုပ္ခဲ့တဲ့ ေရႊ၀ါေရာင္ေတာ္လွန္ေရးမတုိင္မီ ေအာခ်ာ့ဒ္ လမ္းမႀကီးေပၚမွာ အကၤ်ီအျဖဴေတြ ၀တ္ၿပီး စီတန္းလမ္းေလွ်ာက္ခဲ့တာ၊ အာဆီယံထိပ္သီး အစည္းအေ၀း အတြင္းမွာ ေအာ့ခ်ာ့ဒ္လမ္းမေပၚမွာ အကၤ်ီအနီေတြ၀တ္ၿပီး စီတန္းဆႏၵ ျပခဲ့ၾကတာ၊ နာဂစ္မုန္တုိင္းမွာ ေသဆုံးခဲ့တဲ့ ျမန္မာေတြအတြက္ ျမန္မာသံ႐ုံးေရွ႕မွာ သြားေရာက္ဖေယာင္း တုိင္ထြန္း ဆုေတာင္းပြဲလုပ္ခဲ့သမွ်ေတြဟာ စကၤာပူမွာ ရွိတဲ့ လူငါးေယာက္ထက္ပုိၿပီး မစုေ၀းရဆုိတဲ့ ဥပေဒနဲ႔ ၿငိစြန္းေနပါတယ္။

အဲဒီအတြက္ ရဲက ရဲဌာနခ်ဳပ္မွာ ေခၚယူၿပီး စုံစမ္းစစ္ေဆးျခင္းေတြ ျပဳလုပ္ခဲ့သလုိ တန္ဂလင္းရဲစခန္းေဟာင္းမွာလည္း ေခၚယူသတိေပး ေျပာဆုိမႈေတြ ရွိခဲ့ပါတယ္။ (ဒီအေၾကာင္းေတြကုိ “ရဲစခန္းမွာ” ဆုိတဲ့ ပုိ႔စ္ေတြမွာ က်ေနာ္ ေရးျပခဲ့ဘူးပါတယ္။)

စကၤာပူအစုိးရက အေရးယူႏုိင္တာလဲ မွန္ပါတယ္။ အနည္းဆုံး ရဲစခန္းကုိ ေခၚယူေမးျမန္း သတိေပးတာ၊ ဒါမွမဟုတ္ အျပစ္ဒဏ္အေနနဲ႔ ဒဏ္တပ္တာ၊ ေထာင္ခ်တာ၊ အဆုိးဆုံးအေနနဲ႔ တုိင္းျပည္က ႏွင္ထုတ္တာေတြကုိ လုပ္ေဆာင္လာႏုိင္ဘြယ္ရွိတယ္ဆုိတာကုိလည္း က်ေနာ္တုိ႔ ေကာင္းေကာင္းသေဘာေပါက္ပါတယ္။

တခ်ဳိ႕ကေတာ့ သူ႕ႏုိင္ငံေရာက္ရင္ သူ႕ႏိုင္ငံရဲ႕ ဥပေဒကုိ ေလးစားလုိက္နာရမယ္ဆုိတဲ့ အယူအဆကုိ လက္ကုိင္ထားပါတယ္။ အဲဒီဥပေဒဟာ သူ႔ႏုိင္ငံက ျပည္သူလူထုက ဒီမုိကေရစီနည္းလမ္းက်စြာ ေရးဆြဲထားတဲ့ ဥပေဒဆုိရင္ေတာ့ က်ေနာ့္အေနနဲ႔ ေလးစား လုိက္နာဘုိ႔ ၀န္မေလးပါဘူး။ ဒါေပမယ့္ လူ႕အခြင့္အေရးကုိ ဖိႏွိပ္ခ်ဳပ္ခ်ယ္တဲ့ ဥပေဒဆုိရင္ေတာ့ ဘယ္ႏုိင္ငံေရာက္ေရာက္ လုိက္နာမွာမဟုတ္ဘူး။

က်ေနာ္တုိ႔ရဲ႕ ယုံၾကည္ခ်က္က ဒီမုိကေရစီစနစ္ထြန္းကားၿပီး အေျခခံလူ႕အခြင့္အေရးေတြကုိ ေလးစားကာကြယ္ေပးတဲ့ လူ႕အဖြဲ႕အစည္းတရပ္ ေပၚေပါက္ေစဘုိ႔ မဟုတ္ပါလား။

တကယ္တမ္းက်ရင္ အေျခခံလူ႔အခြင့္အေရးေတြဟာ လူသားတေယာက္ေမြးဖြားလုိက္တဲ့ အခ်ိန္ကစလုိ႔ သူ႕နဲ႕အတူ တပါတည္း ပါလာၿပီးသား။ အဲဒီအခြင့္အေရးဟာ လူသားတုိင္းမွာ အညီအမွ်ပါလာတယ္။ သူကေတာ့ျဖင့္ ဘယ္သူ႔သားသမီး၊ ဘယ္လုိ အလႊာမွာ ေမြးဖြားလာလုိ႔ က်င့္သုံးခြင့္ရတယ္။....ဘယ္သူကေတာ့ ဘယ္သူ႔သားသမီး၊ ဘယ္လုိအလႊာမွာ ေမြးဖြားလာလုိ႔ က်င့္သုံးခြင့္မရဘူး။.....စသျဖင့္ အဲသည္လုိ မညီမမွ်မႈ လုံး၀မရွိဘူး။ လူတုိင္းလူတုိင္းမွာ လူမ်ဳိးမေရြး၊ဘာသာမေရြး၊ဆင္းရဲခ်မ္းသာမေရြး၊ အာဏာလက္ရွိလက္မဲ့မေရြး အဲဒီအခြင့္အေရးေတြကုိ လြတ္လြတ္လပ္လပ္ က်င့္သုံးဘုိ႔ အခြင့္အေရး ေမြးကတည္းက ပါၿပီးသား။

အဲဒီလုိ ကုိယ့္အခြင့္အေရးကုိယ္ လြတ္လပ္စြာ က်င့္သုံးတာကုိမွ တဦးတေယာက္ကျဖစ္ေစ၊ တစုတဖြဲ႔ျဖစ္ေစ အေၾကာင္းအမ်ဳိးမ်ဳိးျပၿပီး ဟန္႔တားဖိႏွိပ္ခ်ဳပ္ခ်ယ္လာရင္ အဲဒါဟာ ဖိႏွိပ္ခ်ဳပ္ခ်ယ္လာသူရဲ႕ မတရားမႈ၊ ရာဇ၀တ္မႈ၊ လူမဆန္မႈဘဲ။

တုိင္းျပည္တခုမွာ လူ႕အခြင့္အေရးကုိ လြတ္လပ္စြာက်င့္သုံးမိလုိ႔ အစုိးရကေန မတရား ျပဌာန္းထားတဲ့ ဥပေဒတရပ္ရပ္နဲ႔ အေရးယူခံရရင္ အေရးယူခံရတဲ့လူကုိ အျပစ္တင္စရာမလုိ၊ ႐ႈတ္ခ်စရာမလုိ။ အေရးယူခံရတဲ့ လူကုိယ္တုိင္အေနနဲ႔လည္း ရွက္ရြံ႕စရာမလုိ။

အမွန္စင္စစ္ လူ႔အခြင့္အေရးကုိ ခ်ဳိးေဖာက္တဲ့၊ ဖိႏွိပ္ခ်ဳပ္ျခယ္တဲ့ အစုိးရကုိသာ ၀ုိင္း၀န္းရႈတ္ခ် အျပစ္တင္ရမွာျဖစ္ပါတယ္။

အခုကိစၥမွာလည္း ေဒါက္တာခ်ီးဟာ ေဒၚေအာင္ဆန္းစုၾကည္၊ မစုစုေႏြး၊ ႐ုိဇာပါ႔ခ္၊ ေဒါက္တာမာတင္လူသာကင္း တုိ႔လုိဘဲ လူ႕အခြင့္အေရးနဲ႔ ဒီမုိကေရစီအေရးအတြက္ တုိက္ပြဲ၀င္ေနတဲ့ သူရဲေကာင္းတေယာက္။ ျမန္မာ့သတင္းနဲ႔ ျမန္မာ့႐ုပ္သံက ေဒၚေအာင္ဆန္းစုၾကည္ကုိ အပုပ္ခ်သလုိ စကၤာပူမီဒီယာေတြက ေဒါက္တာခ်ီးကုိ ဘယ္လုိပင္ လူဆုိးလူသြမ္းတဦးသဖြယ္ ျခယ္မႈန္းေနေပမယ့္ လြတ္လပ္တဲ့ သတင္းမီဒီယာနဲ႔ လြတ္လပ္တဲ့ လူ႔အဖြဲ႕အစည္းကေတာ့ ေဒါက္တာခ်ီးရဲ႕ လူ႕အခြင့္အေရးႀကဳိးပမ္းမႈကုိ အထူးတလည္ အသိအမွတ္ျပဳၾကပါတယ္။ သူဟာ အျပည္ျပည္ဆုိင္ရာ လႊတ္ေတာ္အမွတ္မ်ားအဖြဲ႔က ေပးအပ္တဲ့ “၂၀၀၃ ခုႏွစ္အတြက္ ဒီမုိကေရစီအား ကာကြယ္ေစာင့္ေရွာက္သူဆု” အပ္ႏွင္းျခင္းခံခဲ့ရပါတယ္။

ေဒါက္တာခ်ီးဟာ က်ေနာ္တုိ႔လုိ ဒီမုိကေရစီနဲ႔ လူ႔အခြင့္အေရးအတြက္ တုိက္ပြဲ၀င္ေနသူ အေပါင္းအတြက္ စံနမူနာယူစရာျပယုဂ္တခု၊ သူရဲေကာင္းတေယာက္ပါဘဲ။ အဲဒီအတြက္ က်ေနာ္တုိ႔ဟာ သူနဲ႔ သူ႔ညီမအတြက္ ျပဳလုပ္တဲ့ ဖေယာင္းတုိင္ထြန္းဆုေတာင္းပြဲကုိ ကိုယ္တုိင္ တက္ေရာက္အားေပးဖုိ႔ ဆုံးျဖတ္ခဲ့ပါတယ္။ က်ေနာ္တုိ႔ဆုံးျဖတ္တဲ့အေလ်ာက္ ကုိယ့္အခြင့္အေရး ျဖစ္တဲ့ လြတ္လပ္စြာထုတ္ေဖာ္ပုိင္ခြင့္၊ လြတ္လပ္စြာ စု႐ုံးပုိင္ခြင့္ကုိ အာဏာပုိင္ေတြ ခြင့္ျပဳျခင္း၊ မျပဳျခင္းကုိ ထည့္သြင္းမစဥ္းစားေတာ့ဘဲ က်င့္သုံးခဲ့ပါတယ္။

အာဏာရွင္ေတြဟာ လူေတြရဲ႕ ရင္ထဲ အသည္းထဲမွာ အေၾကာက္တရားကုိ ထည့္ေပးျခင္းအားျဖင့္ အာဏာရွင္စနစ္သက္ဆုိးရွည္ေအာင္ ႀကဳိးပမ္းတတ္ၾကတာကုိ က်ေနာ္တုိ႔အားလုံး နားလည္လက္ခံၾကပါတယ္။ ဒီေတာ့ က်ေနာ္တုိ႔ ရင္ထဲမွာ ရွိေနတဲ့ အေၾကာက္တရားဟာ အာဏာရွင္ေတြ တည္ၿမဲဘုိ႔အတြက္ အဓိကေဒါက္တုိင္ေတြ ျဖစ္မေနေပဘူးလား။ အာဏာရွင္စနစ္ၿပဳိလဲေစဘုိ႔ဆုိရင္ က်ေနာ္တုိ႔ ကို္ယ္ထဲမွာ ရွိေနတဲ့ အဲဒီ ေဒါက္တုိင္ေတြကို အရင္ၿဖဳိလွဲၾကရေပမေပါ႔။

လူတေယာက္ဟာ အျခားသူတေယာက္ကုိ ကယ္တင္ဘုိ႔အတြက္ဆုိရင္ ကိုယ္တုိင္ အေၾကာက္တရားကေန လြတ္ေျမာက္သူတေယာက္ျဖစ္ဘုိ႔ လုိပါတယ္။

ေဂါတမဗုဒၶဟာ သတၱ၀ါေ၀ေနယ်ေတြကုိ သံသရာ၀ဲဂယက္က ကယ္တင္ႏုိင္ဘုိ႔အတြက္ ကုိယ္တုိင္ ကိေလသာတဏွာရဲ႕ အေႏွာင္အဖြဲ႕ကေန လြတ္ေျမာက္ေအာင္ အရင္ႀကဳိးစား အားထုတ္ခဲ့ပါတယ္။

ေဒၚေအာင္ဆန္းစုၾကည္၊ ဦးတင္ဦး၊ ဦး၀င္းတင္၊ ကုိမင္းကုိႏုိင္၊ ကုိကုိႀကီး၊ မစုစုေႏြး၊ ကုိေအာင္ေဖစတဲ့ သူရဲေကာင္းအာဇာနည္ေတြဟာလည္း ျမန္မာျပည္သူလူထုကုိ အေၾကာက္ တရားရဲ႕ ခ်ဳပ္ေႏွာင္မႈက လြတ္ကင္းၿပီး လြတ္လပ္တဲ့ လူ႔အဖြဲ႕အစည္းတခု ျဖစ္လာေစဘုိ႔ ေရွ႕တန္းကေန ေဆာင္ရြက္ခဲ့ၾကရမွာ သူတုိ႔ကိုယ္တုိင္အေၾကာက္တရားရဲ႕ ေႏွာင္ဖြဲ႕မႈကေန လြတ္ေျမာက္ေနၿပီး လြတ္လပ္စြာ စဥ္းစားေတြးေခၚျပဳမူၾကတာကုိ ေတြ႕ရပါတယ္။

ေဂါတမဗုဒၶဟာ ကုိယ္တုိင္ ကိေလသာ၊ ကာမတဏွာရဲ႕ ေႏွာင္တည္းမႈက လြတ္ေျမာက္ခဲ့သူတေယာက္ျဖစ္ခဲ့လုိ႔ ေ၀ေနယ်ာအမ်ားစုဟာလည္း ဗုဒၶအေပၚမွာၾကည္ညဳိ သလုိ ဗုဒၶရဲ႕ တရားေတာ္အေပၚမွာလည္း ၾကည္ညဳိသဒၶါပြားလုိ႔၊ ယုံၾကည္သက္၀င္လုိ႔ လုိက္လံႀကဳိးစား အားထုတ္တဲ့အခါ သံသရာကေန လြတ္ေျမာက္ၿပီး ကၽြတ္တမ္း၀င္ခဲ့ရတဲ့ သာဓကေတြ ရွိပါတယ္။

အလားတူပါဘဲ ကုိေအာင္ေဖက အစ....ကုိမင္းကုိႏုိင္အလယ္...ေဒၚေအာင္ဆန္းစုၾကည္အဆုံး အဲဒီသူရဲ႕ေကာင္းေတြရဲ႕ အေၾကာက္တရားကင္းမႈ၊ လြတ္ေျမာက္မႈအေပၚမွာ ၾကည္ညဳိေလးစား ၾကျခင္းျဖင့္ သူတုိ႔ရဲ႕ လုပ္ရပ္အေပၚမွာ သက္၀င္ယုံၾကည္ၿပီး၊ သူတုိ႔ရဲ႕ သတၱိကုိ ေသြးကူးယူၿပီး က်ေနာ္တုိ႔တေတြဟာ မိမိရဲ႕ ကိုယ္တြင္းမွာ တြယ္၀င္ၿပီး မိမိကုိ ႏွစ္ရွည္လမ်ား ခ်ဳပ္ေႏွာင္ထားတဲ့ အေၾကာက္တရားဆုိတဲ့ ေႏွာင္ႀကဳိးႀကီးကေန ႐ုန္းထြက္ၾကမယ္ဆုိရင္၊ အာဏာရွင္စနစ္သက္ဆုိးရွည္ေရးအတြက္ အေထာက္အကူေပးေနတဲ့ မိမိတုိ႔ ရင္ထဲက အေၾကာက္တရား ေထာက္တုိင္ႀကီးကုိ ၿဖဳိဖ်က္ၾကမယ္ဆုိရင္ အာဏာရွင္စနစ္ဟာ အျမန္ဆုံးၿပဳိလဲရမွာ မလြဲမေသြပါဘဲ။

အဲဒီလုိ အေၾကာက္တရားကို ၿဖဳိဖ်က္ရာမွာ သေဘာသက္သက္မဟုတ္၊ အေျပာသက္သက္ မဟုတ္၊ အလုပ္နဲ႔ သက္ေသျပဘုိ႔ လုိအပ္ပါတယ္။

မိမိဟာ လူ႔အခြင့္အေရးကုိ ရယူခ်င္ရင္ သူမ်ားကေပးတဲ့အထိ ေစာင့္ေနစရာမလုိ။ ေမြးရာပါ အခြင့္အေရးျဖစ္တဲ့အတြက္ ဘာကုိမွ မစုိးရြံ႕ဘဲ ရဲရဲက်င့္သုံးပါ။

အာဏာရွင္မ်ားက ကန္႔သတ္ထားတဲ့ စည္း၀ုိင္းေဘာင္အတြင္းမွာဘဲ ျပဳမူလႈပ္ရွားေနရတာဟာ မိမိကုိယ္ကုိ အင္မတန္ သနားစရာေကာင္းပါတယ္။ လြတ္လပ္စြာေတြးေခၚပါ၊ လြတ္လပ္စြာျပဳမူပါ။ ဒါမွသာ မိမိဟာ လြတ္လပ္ေရးနဲ႔ ထုိက္တန္တဲ့လူျဖစ္တယ္။ မိမိဟာ လြတ္ေျမာက္သူတဦးျဖစ္ႏုိင္တယ္။

ကုိယ့္ေမြးရာပါအခြင့္အေရးကုိ ရဲရဲႀကီး လက္ေတြ႕ က်င့္သုံးပါမွ မိမိဟာ “ဖိႏွိပ္ခ်ဳပ္ခ်ယ္ျခင္းဆုိတဲ့ အေမွာင္ထုကုိ ဆဲေရးမေနဘဲ မိမိရဲ႕ ႏွလုံးအိမ္အတြင္းက လြတ္ေျမာက္ျခင္းဖေယာင္းတုိင္ကုိ ထိန္ေနေအာင္ ထြန္းညႇိလုိက္ႏုိင္တဲ့” လူတေယာက္ ျဖစ္လာႏုိင္ေပမယ္။ အာဏာရွင္ေတြ မတရားေရးဆြဲထားတဲ့ မတရားတဲ့ ဥပေဒေဘာင္ အတြင္းမွာ က်ဳိးႏြံစြာေနထုိင္ျခင္းဟာ လြတ္လပ္ေရးတန္ဘုိးထားရာမေရာက္၊ ဒီမုိကေရစီ စနစ္ကုိ ယုံၾကည္ရာမေရာက္၊ လူ႕အခြင့္အေရးအတြက္ တုိက္ပြဲ၀င္ရာမေရာက္ေၾကာင္းကုိ ေကာင္းေကာင္းႀကီး သေဘာေပါက္ၾကဘုိ႔လုိပါတယ္။ နအဖ ေဆာင္ပုဒ္ျဖစ္တဲ့ “ဥပေဒေဘာင္တြင္း ေနထုိင္ျခင္း၊ ေဘးကင္းရန္ကြာ လြန္ခ်မ္းသာ” ဆုိတာႀကီးကုိ နားေယာင္ၿပီး “က်ေနာ္တုိ႔က Rule of Law ကုိဘဲ ယုံၾကည္တယ္” လုိ႔ ေယဘုယ်သေဘာ ၿဖီးျဖန္းညာ၀ါးေႂကြးေၾကာ္ၿပီး လက္ေတြ႕မွာေတာ့“ Rule of Law လား၊ Rule by Law လား ” ဆုိတာကုိ ဆင္ျခင္တုံတရားနဲ႔ ခြဲျခမ္းစိတ္ျဖာျခင္းမျပဳေတာ့ဘဲ ဥပေဒဆုိရင္ အတူတူဘဲလုိ႔ ေကာက္ခ်က္ဆြဲကာ မတရားတဲ့ ဥပေဒကုိလည္း ႐ုိက်ဳိးစြာလုိက္နာဘုိ႔ တုိက္တြန္း မႈိင္းတုိက္ေနတဲ့ သူရဲေဘာေၾကာင္တဲ့ အခြင့္အေရးသမား လူတြင္က်ယ္လုပ္လုိသူတခ်ဳိ႕ကုိလည္း ျမန္မာ့အေရးလႈပ္ရွားမႈမွာ စိတ္မခ်မ္းသာဘြယ္ ေတြ႕ျမင္ေနရပါတယ္။

စိတ္သာရွင္ေစာ ဘုရားေဟာ၊ အရာရာကုိ စိတ္ကသာလွ်င္ ဦးေဆာင္တယ္ဆုိတဲ့ စကားေတြရွိတဲ့အတုိင္း ဒီမုိကေရစီ၊ လြတ္လပ္ေရးနဲ႔ လူ႕အခြင့္အေရးကုိ ယုံၾကည္တယ္ဆုိရင္ မိမိတုိ႔ကုိယ္တုိင္ မိမိေရာက္ရာ အရပ္မွာ ႏုိင္ငံမွာ အေျပာမဟုတ္ လက္ေတြ႕ ျပဳမူက်င့္သုံးၾကဘုိ႔ တုိက္တြန္းႏႈိးေဆာ္လုိက္ပါတယ္။

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Anonymous said...

With due respect, I think it is not a good idea to go against the host country even if the institutions of the state do not practise the text book, off-the-shelf idealist's liberal democracy.

Founder of modern China, Dr. Sun Yat San, used Singapore as his fund raising spring board and during his days, Chinese immigrants did not enjoy the favor status from the ruling British. Had he fought two fronts, spear-headed the campagin against British while working hard for the old China under the Manchu emperor?
No, he did not. Rather, he used the British rule of law and imperfect democracy under colonialism and he raised funds, siphoned those for his republicans forces inside China and he changed the destiny of China.

Muscles can be flexed only when they are strong, no one was born with well built muscles. If an arm uses its muscles pre-maturely, its fibre may be torn off and it will never have the chance to flex when needed.

Singapore, is a good launch pad for democratising Burma. The Burmese diaspora there are neither refugees or politian clowns and crooks in exile who are loathed by any educated Burmese. May I humbly suggest, dont kill the goose that lay the egg and please dont flex the muscle when you are an infant.

Imagine a day, when there are more than 300,000 Burmese in Singapore, shuttling between Singapore and Burma. Burmese diaspora will be guest workers, students, professionals and some Singaporean of Burmese citizens who once called Burma home. Singapore desperately needs a hinterland and Burmese needs access to more affluent markets, tap know-how and brain storage. We have synergies and if Burmese diaspora can have reach a point to flex their muscle to Burma, if they are tactful enough to use Singapore's influence towards Burmese generals, we can change Burma. It may not be a radical regime change, but it may be some reforms and rooms to manuever. My 2 cents.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Yat-sen

တန္ခူး said...

ကိုေပါေရ…ဘာမွမဟုတ္တဲ့ က်ြန္မကုိ သတိတရရွိတာ ေက်းဇူးပါ….

ကုိေပါ said...

Dear Anonymous,

Thanks for your thoughtful suggestion. I have no doubt about your goodwill which I always truly appreciate.

With due respect, I have some disagreements with your line of reasoning.

If you never try to flex your muscle it will never become strong. Take a look at athletes who need to exercise daily to build their muscles stronger and stronger.

The same logic can be applied to the Burmese diaspora in Singapore. We need a critical mass who always wants to exercise their muscle. We can count on them. We can count on a few brave and strong men while we can’t count on a weak majority. If we have a critical mass, the majority will follow.

During Bogyoke Aung San’s time, his main intention was to get independence. He could work with Communists, Capitalists and even with Facists.

But now, our struggle is for democracy. Our revolution is related to change of ideology. Along the way, we, ourselves, who claim to love democracy and human rights, will have to exercise it.

In fighting for Independence, end results might justify the mean. But when going for democracy, means is as much important as the end result. If we practice undemocratic tactics and abuse the human rights along the way, in the end, we will find ourselves no different from the Junta we toppled. It will just be a regime change, not a system change. That is what we don’t desire.

That is why we are practicing what we believe. That is why we stand for what we believe. That is why we are willing to sacrifice for what we believe. We believe that none of our effort will be in vain. If we can’t bring democracy and human rights to our mother land in our life time, at least, we liberate ourselves from fear.

I hope you will understand my stand by now. Anyway, thanks for your goodwill.

With best regards,
Ko Paw

တန္ခူး……… ကြန္ဖူးပန္ဒါ မၾကည့္ရေသးရင္ သြားၾကည့္လုိက္ပါ။ အဲဒီက်ရင္ အဲဒီ ဘာမွ မဟုတ္တာက ဘယ္ေလာက္အေရးပါသလဲလုိ႔ သိရေအာင္။ သားကုိေခၚၿပီး လုိက္ျပလုိက္ပါ။ ႐ုံတင္ေနၿပီ။

Anonymous said...

For me democracy is just another mean to the end, which is a prosperous Burma, Burma as a promising land booming with job, business and education opportunities, Burma with a high human development index, Burma with a majority of Burmese escaped poverty line (that is living under less than a dollar a day), Burma which is no longer a ground for exploitation by her neighbours, a Burma where rule of law persists, a Burma where meritocracy booms, a Burma where everyone is treated as equal regardless of their race, religion and gender. If Cmocracy or Zimocracy will bring that then I am in for it. I believe in democracy because it seems to be able to bring all above ends to our land, even imperfect democracy will be ok to start with. But to accept every liberal democracy to our land which never experienced a liberal democracy can be a nightmare.

ကုိေပါ said...

Dear Anonymous,

So, are you having a nightmare now as you seem to be in a full democracy? From your comments and from your own opinion, it seems that you are not a true believer of democracy and you are not really ready for democracy. If such as person like you are okay and having no nightmare there, then I can assure you that other Burmese will also be okay with Liberal Democracy. :-)

With best regards,
Ko Paw

Anonymous said...

Ko Paw,

I am a ordinary house wife who live in Southern California. I read your blog daily and a big fan of yours.

Keep up the good work and do whatever you believe in. We support you 110%.

မ်ဳိးျမင့္ေမာင္ said...

Mr/Ms 2 cents or Annonymous,

It is right that the ends you believe democracy, as a means, can bring to Burma are what the principles and mechanism of democracy guarantee. However, why do you think it's ok for Burma to start with imperfect democracy and it will be a nightmare for Burma to experience liberal democracy?

What do you mean by imperfect democracy? Is it a sham democracy, like that of Singapore, with make-believe elections (by which an authoritarian government will always be elected through manipulation of the voting system), rule of unjust law (by which innocent people will always be convicted or punished for expressing their conscience), and equal opportunities for everyone who is not from the elite ruling class to be a second-class citizen in his/her home country. How come you think it's ok for Burma to start with imperfect democracy when you desire Burma to become "a promising land..." (blah blah blah)? I must say you're hypocritical to say that. Maybe you don't even know what you believe.

I can sense that you're awed by Singapore because of its economic well-being. But, economic well-being is only part of the overall well-being of a society or a nation. No first world countries think Singapore as a first world country despite it's wealth. In terms of human rights and civil liberties, Singapore is indeed a mere third world country.

By the way, why do you think liberal democracy can be nightmarish to Burma? Do you even know what liberal democracy is? Do you imply that Burmese people are too accustomed to military dictatorship to be able to survive under liberal democracy? My fellow countryman, don't underestimate your compatriots that way. If you're not sure of yourself as regards living in Burma under liberal democracy, I won't think it's a pity that you migrate to an undemocratic country.

Anonymous said...

All of us, who have access to the world wide web, do not represent average Aung Bu and Thar Gi or Shwe Mi inside Burma. Thanks to more than 30 years of censorship and ignorance, it may not be wrong to claim that less than 1% of Burmese understand rights and responsibilities (such as paying taxes, obeying law, monitoring and intervening if there are some crook politician and cronies close to officials are abusing the rights), in such environments, copying and pasting liberal democracy from countries like US and UK will be nightmare.

မ်ဳိးျမင့္ေမာင္ said...

2 cents or Anonymous,

It's so naive of you to think in the first place that liberal democracy can be copied and pasted like a brand name. Liberal democracy has principles, institutions and processes. Unless its principles are observed, its institutions are established and its processes are developed, liberal democracy doesn't exist.

The majority of the Burmese people doesn't know the rights and responsibilities of a democratic citizenship because there is no proper legal and social environments for them to learn those under the military rule. That's why we need the very liberal democracy, as a means, to create the necessary legal and social environments, the desired ends.

By the way, I've found a country for you to migrate, i.e., Republic of Equatorial Guinea. You will like it because it's the second most wealthiest country in the world in terms of per capita GDP (browse http://www.aneki.com/countries_gdp_per_capita.html). And it also suits you fine because it has an undemocratic regime. The only bad thing is that "a huge proportion of the £370 million revenue is confiscated by the president while most of the 500,000 subjects subsist on less than a dollar a day, sewage runs through the streets of the capital Malabo, and there is no public transport and little drinking water or electricity" (www.wikipedia.org).

Anonymous said...

Hi Ko Myo Myint Maung

FYI, it is in that tiny West African nation called Republic of Equatorial Guinea whose capital city Malabu (not Malibu beach in the east coast of United States) where the US oil firms are pumping oil big time without making a fuss about human rights and democracy.
Those oil multinationals are building the nations first university (upgraded from polytechnic) and some infrastructure.

I am not under estimating Burmese, but the reality and facts will work against our will and imaginations. We are breathing the air of freedom, feeding our hard earned meals, living under the safe and cosy houses we bought or rent and we are fully protected by the law and order. But back home in Burma, we were once taught that the authority is not to be challenged, if we learned that authority is to be challenged we did not learn the right way. We still are a bunch of cow boys on both side of the conflict.

The whole point here is to have a clearly defined and focused strategy. Understand own short comings, know your men who are leading you, know your men who are rarring you, know your men who are behind you (if you are leader), know your adversaries (enemy you might say) inside out, know your accomplices (there is no friend in politics global or local), know where you want to go, know what do you have in hand and the path you want to take. Or we will be openning multiple fronts, fighting like dreamers.

Anonymous said...

Are you sure Malibu beach is in the east cost of US? Isn't it in So Cal(west coast)? We were just there last week with my friends. I wonder there is a same beach name in the east coast. I could be wrong.

Nay Lin

Anonymous said...

ဟဲ့!ႏွစ္ျပားမတန္/my 2 cents>>>ဇီးသီးသည္မဗိ်ဳင္း။ ဘ၀ေမ့ျပီးေလ်ွာက္ေအာ္မေနနဲ့။ နင့္တိုင္းျပည္မွာဘာေတြျဖစ္ေနလဲဆိုတာေသခ်ာေလ့လာဦး။ဟိုမွာငတ္ေနၾကျပီ။နင့္္လိုခံယူမရွိတဲ့လူ၊ကိုယ္စီးတဲ့ျမင္းအထီးလားအမလားမသိတဲ့လူေတြေၾကာင့္န၀တသက္ဆိုးရွည္ေနတာ။ ငါ့စကားႏြားရမ်က္စိပိတ္ျပီးလူအထင္ၾကီးေအာင္ဆရာၾကီးလုပ္ျပမေနနဲ့။

Anonymous said...

To not worth 2 cents,

People like you do not deserve democracy and rights for free speech. If anyone express something disagreeing you believe, you cannot stand anymore and you start to shreik and scream and etc.. That is why I said, average Burmese, may not deserve those rights enjoyed by the citizens of the free world. For those who are inside Burma, I can understand them because they did not have the opportunities to learn how to practise freedom but you? You seems to be a bit under performer in the learning. Look at the Kenyans, what they have done after facing some frauds in the elections, and the Zimbabweians. If you watch close enough, you will see the newspaper published locally in Kenya and Zimbabwe are far more eye-openning than local papers publishing inside Burma. Kenya is the host country for some UN offices, Zimbabwe is also one such country that has the potential to be a leading African nation. So observing what Kenyans and Zimbabweians did one another, reflecting back our own history and civil war, separatist movement, considiering the state of the people like you. I claimed it will be a nightmare. My 1.5 cents.

Anonymous said...

Hi Ko Nay Lin

You are right, Malibu is in the California and so it should be on the west side of the United States.

About Equatorial_Guinea

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equatorial_Guinea

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/country_profiles/1023151.stm

မ်ဳိးျမင့္ေမာင္ said...

2 cents (or less),

I'd like to say that I'm really confused about your line of logic and arguments. You said about many things in your comment particularly addressed to me but gave me no clear connection between the facts you gave and the arguments you wanted to make. Moreover, make sure you have the right and credible facts if you want to argue seriously.


In the first paragraph, you said that American oil companies were doing business in Equatorial Guinea regardless of the human rights abuses by its undemocratic regime and these oil companies were also building some of the country's infrastructures, including its first university. What was your point for presenting the facts. What was the claim you wanted to make? It's meaningless that you give only facts but no conclusion when you make an argument. Perhaps, stating FYI, you had no argument to make (but you sounded like you were making an argument) and just wanted to share what you knew. If so, I'd like to thank you for your kind intention. However, please present your facts more sensibly and credibly. At least, you shouldn't have been mistaken about the location of Malibu, which is a superfluous information anyway.

In your second paragraph, you said "the reality and facts will work against our will and imaginations". It is an argument I can't deny since it's too vague and general. Anyway, for that argument, your premises were "we are breathing the air of freedom...fully protected by the law and order" (the usual blah,blah,blah). That's it? How do these premises support your argument? Above all, what did your argument really mean? My fellow countryman, unless you specify your points, it's meaningless to say a thousand words. You also said "we were once taught that the authority is not to be challenged". Yes, you're right about it and I think you really believe what you were taught saying "if we learned that authority is to be challenged, we did not learn the right way". Is the authority, however unjust, not to be challenged at all? What did you mean by "learn the right way"? To learn as a wise person does or to learn as a coward does? I think you meant the latter. At the end of the second paragraph, you concluded “we still are a bunch of cowboys on both side of the conflict”. Again, how did you come to such a conclusion? None of the things you had said before that led directly to the conclusion. I really see no connection at all. Furthermore, what exactly was the “conflict” you mentioned and what did you mean by “cowboys”? Why did you suddenly give such a conclusion? When you construct an argument, please do it coherently without using ambiguous word.

In your third paragraph, you said “the whole point here is to have a clearly defined and focused strategy…the path you want to take”. I couldn’t agree more about all these because what you said are so true in the most general sense. Nobody could disagree with you because what you said are as true as saying the sky is blue, the world is round, the grass is green, etc. What remarkable insights you have! Still, there were a few confusions. What is the meaning of the word “rarring”? As far as I know, there isn’t such a verb in English. Please do explain its meaning and help improve my poor knowledge as no English dictionary I know could do so. Also, why do you believe “there is no friend in politics, global or local”? Please explain it as well. Once again, at last, you incoherently concluded that “we would be opening multiple fronts, fighting like dreamers”. It is possible that people with a clearly defined and focused strategy may fight at multiple fronts for the same cause, isn’t it? Anyway, in regard of what did you make that argument? Please be specific! As long as you keep on being ambiguous when you argue, it’s like you say nonsense. Saying something like people must do things in the right way without giving the necessary specifications about the relevant issues and context will not make you a logical debater. Actually, you may make a nuisance of yourself if you repeatedly do so.

After all, I don’t know whether you made the comments out of your true beliefs and sincere concerns for the cause of liberating Burma or you made the comments just out of sheer hypocrisy. I assure you that I truly believe in what I’ve said and done. And I can accept any criticism from you and any other person for my own deeds with my true identity revealed. I’m Myo Myint Maung and studying as an undergraduate student in Singapore. You can also see my photos in this post on which we’ve been making comments. Can you do the same in order to show your sincere conviction in what you say and your willingness to be responsible for it? If you dare not stand up and take responsibility for your stance with your true identity, I daresay you are a coward and a hypocrite.

Anonymous said...

Ko Myo Min Maung

I think you or someone earlier had suggested me to migrate to that tiny west african nation. Yes I talked about US oil firms pumping oil out of its soil although that nation is ruled by a tyrant. I talked about their first university, converted from a polytechnic because I want to give credit to the oil firms. What I want to stress is that, although United States is supposed to be the leader of the free world, it still allows their oil firms to operate in such despotic states.
The son of the leader of that nation studied at the Peperdine, a selective private university in the California, US of A. That supports my view that democracy is just a tool, a mean to reach the goal, the end. To get oil flowing into the United States, to rely less on volatile middle eastern oil fields, US government had strategically sponsored the oil firms incorporated in the United States to drill more on west african soil and sea. Because the end for the United States is not a democracy but prosperous United States, cheaper gas for their citizens, undisputed position of United States as a world leader in the uni polar world. I think it should be clear enough for you to get the inferrment that I am trying to imply by my arguments.


FYI, rarring is some act you do when you want to cheer lead, your rar, it is alike clapping.

Anonymous said...

“cowboy” is a slang for someone who does not know what he or she is doing. If someone is hot headed, alebait sincere, justify and pursue violent actions, mostly brute force, then he is a cowboy.

I say cowboys in both sides because generals who ruled the country are acting as cowboys, they do not think of all aspects but they act in rush, hurry and stupidity.

Well, I say the opposition is full of cowboys, because I dont see anyone respectable apart from Daw Su, U Tin Oo, U Win Tin and other leaders who are inside Burma.

So yes my conclusion is that we have both cow boys on both sides.
I hope this lengthy lecture will help you digest some information.

Anonymous said...

FYI, the GDP of the Republic of Equatorial Guinea is as high as Singapore or Swizerland. However, it does not necessarily means that the citizens there are rich and prosperous. There is an article about that nation in the Economists and half of the people there in oil rich nation are still living under the poverty line. The human development index is low. So it is not the end I have advocated or desired for Burma.

On the otherhand, if Burma become like Singapore, I will happily vote for any party that will deliver results.

မ်ဳိးျမင့္ေမာင္ said...

2 cents (or less),

You are a coward and a hypocrite!

Sit Mone said...

Ko Paw Yay,

I would like to support your stand for the post that was a center of argument between anonymous and Myo Myint Aung.
To be honest I am unable to read the lengthy discussion of debating posts of both of them.
However, I am pleasantly surprised to realize that both of them were good in debates,and language skills.
Future Democratic Burma needs the people like you all,who are with different opinion and having guts to debate for the good cause of our own people.
Again, In my opinion,anonymous' last argument has flawed that she seems to know little about Lion's city politics.
I would like to suggest both of you to start your own blogs, so that we all can participate in future discussions.
with best regards to all,
Sit Mone

Anonymous said...

There is no such thing as perfect or ideal democracy. It is just a system, a properly designed democratic governance system can be analogous to a close loop feedback system using the system engineering approach.

The input to the systems are votes, socio economic forces that shape the outcome of the system(the goal).

The transfer function of the system is the constitution, bill of rights, amendments, etc..

There must be a negative feedback loop to stabilize and reduce noise. You can say that negative feedback loop as media, citizen journalism, flow of information, gossip loop, point blank critism, debates in the parliment, impeachments, etc.. So you can start with an imperfect system and you can slowly tune it for stability and amplifcation.

So, yes I dont mind to start with an imperfect system. The system will learn itself, but to make sure that the negative feedback is in place, and we can make amendments as necessary as the constituents and context changes.

It is not advocating the free ride of the uncontested uniformed officers. It is something we have to be pragamatic, start with simple transfer function, and add more sub-systems in series or parallel (generations after generation it will be changed as it will suit for them) and make sure negative feedback is chanelling.

It will take a baby steps to learn how to walk. You cannot expect a baby to walk and sprint in her first day. The new democratic Burma will be like a baby, she just came out of the womb of the dictatorship, we need her to let her learn from her mistakes and move forward.

So it is the middle way I am advocating, some uniformed officers and soldiers as uncontested representative, and either they take less percentage or they must have free will to act on their own. As long as they are not Daddy Than Shwe's (next commander in chief) little boys or pinkish boys, I am fine with that.

Am I being hypocritic? I dont think so. But surely I am not a hot head and I am proud of my cool head and controlled manners. My 3 cents (now a bit more worthy)

မ်ဳိးျမင့္ေမာင္ said...

Hey 3 cents (or just 2 cents),

You are shamelessly trying to seem oblivious of my challenge to expose your true identity as I did. As long as you only dare to debate as an anonymity, I daresay you are just a coward and a hypocrite.

မ်ဳိးျမင့္ေမာင္ said...

3 cents (or just 2 cents),

Let me teach you some proper English. There are no such words as "rar" and "rarring" in English. It's so incredible that you even bluffed about the meanings of those words without shame. Also, you were wrong to write "hypocritic" as there is no such word in English, too. You should have written "hypocritical". If you can't use standard Englsih, consult a dictionary. And stop blaffing shamelessly!

မ်ဳိးျမင့္ေမာင္ said...

I meant to say bluffing, not blaffing, in my last comment.

Anonymous said...

Hi Ko Myo Myint Maung

It is my decision to remain anonymous and you should respect that. It is my choice. I hope you understand that point. If you dont, then that is it, you need to learn.

On WWW I do not want to reveal who I am. One day those digital foot prints will haunt you back. Another 2 cents if you know how to take it.

BTW, if I were you, I would be studying rather than spending time in this comments of web blogs because at the end of the day, your academic credentials (degrees), capital (wealth you accumulated), your skills (what you can do) will count if you want to contribute for the country or advancing yourself in life.

It is fine to spend time on web during study breaks but it is not wise to spend time while studying.
This should be 10 cents, dont you think so?

Anonymous said...

Rarr: Used to show emotions in cases of extreme stress, anger, or joy.

Example: Jen: Oh yeah, I accidentally deleted your 25 page research paper for English. Dan: RARR!

roaring and raring!

http://www.slangsite.com/slang/R.html

Anonymous said...

how to avoid being convicted of sedition act in the Singapore

http://aaron-ng.info/blog/how-to-avoid-being-convicted-of-sedition.html

မ်ဳိးျမင့္ေမာင္ said...

Hey 2 cents,

Even though I'm calling you 2 cents as an act of courtesy, I don't think you are worth any cent at all. You are just a coward and a hypocrite. Why should I respect your choice to remain as an anonymity while you're irresponsibly and hypocritically making comments which you don't even dare to stand up for with your true identity? Why are you afraid of being haunted by the "digital footprint" of your comments if you really believe in what you say? You've shown your cowardice and hypocrisy.

You're also a bluff. In one of your earlier comment, you said "rarring is some act you do when you want to cheer lead, your rar, it is alike clapping". You defined it as a verb then. But, later you said "Rarr: Used to show emotions in cases of extreme stress, anger, or joy". This time, you defined it as an exclamation. What a contradiction! It's really pathetic that you tried so hard to save your face by bluffing. If you make a mistake, you should be at least honest to admit it. Instead, what you did was bluffing. You are really pathetic and disgusting.

Hey, stop saying nonsense and bluffing. This will be my last attempt to debate with you until you reveal your true identity. I won't waste my time by trying to debate with you again although I'm on my summer vacation. It's just too obvious that you're a coward, a hypocrite and a pathetic bluff.

Anonymous said...

Hi Sir Myo Myint Mg

I just think you are just another cowboy, but since you are young, as you said, you may be a goatboy. But take it as a compliment as the David who conquered the Goliah was herding sheep before he shown the power of slingshot. Enjoy your summer vacations in Singapore. Surely this is 0 cents compliments :D

မ်ဳိးျမင့္ေမာင္ said...

2 cents,

You just think that I'm just another cowboy or "goatboy". As for me, I'm sure about you. I know who you really are even though you are too scared to reveal your true identity. I know it for sure that you are a coward, a hypocrite and a bluff because of the reasons I stated in my earlier comments (I'd not waste my time by repeating them).

Anonymous said...

You do not need a PhD in rocket science (if NUS offers that course) to find out who I am. Everyone knows that blogs can track IP and using WHOIS database, you can find out where that IP address is registered or which domain its belong to.

ကုိေပါ said...

Hi Anonymous,

The comments you made immediately revealed who you are. I don't need to bother with the IP address.

Not only me, everyone who has read your group emails before will definitely recognize you if he has a chance to read your comments.

So, at least you should be proud that you are unique.

Talking about Uniqueness, I couldn't help remembering the words "Uniquely Singapore!!!". :-)

With best regards,
Ko Paw

မ်ဳိးျမင့္ေမာင္ said...

2 cents,

Don't try to show off that you know something about tracking IP addresses on internet blogs. While trying to show off, you actually revealed that you are a bluff who knows things only at a superficial level.

Don't get so scared by my knowing who you are. I only meant that I know you are a coward, a hypocrite and a bluff. I can't check your IP address because I'm not the owner or administrator of this blog. Hey, you knows too little to bluff. And don't think others are as dumb as you.

Well, you know, you really are a lousy and pathetic bluff. Haha!

Anonymous said...

Hi Ko Paw

I see now, I did not think that way. Anyway, I will take those as compliments :D.

Hey Goat Boy

Make sure sheeps will return home safely. Relax, attacking me will move you nowhere. Hitting the books will serve you better.

မ်ဳိးျမင့္ေမာင္ said...

2 cents,

I like bashing cowards, hypocrites and bluffs like you. And you are the disgusting goat of mine whom I like to beat. So what? Hahaha!

Burmese Gold Bull said...

Myo Myint Maung,

u said, "Myo Myint Maung said...
2 cents or Anonymous,

It's so naive of you to think in the first place that liberal democracy can be copied and pasted like a brand name. Liberal democracy has principles, institutions and processes. Unless its principles are observed, its institutions are established and its processes are developed, liberal democracy doesn't exist."

How many years do you need to establish liberal democracy in Burma?

မ်ဳိးျမင့္ေမာင္ said...

BurmeseGoldBull,

Frankly, I have no answer for your question because I can neither establish liberal democracy in Burma alone myself nor foresee the future. I can't say how many years it will take Burma to achieve liberal democracy, but I think it may take as long as Burmese like you keep on asking that stupid question rather than strive for liberal democracy.

Anonymous said...

u said, "I think it may take as long as Burmese like you keep on asking that stupid question rather than strive for liberal democracy"

u also said, "Liberal democracy has principles, institutions and processes. Unless its principles are observed, its institutions are established and its processes are developed, liberal democracy doesn't exist."

so how do i strive for liberal democracy when i don't see the foundation - principles and institutions.

u don't know the answer and play down the question as a stupid question. wat a funny man u r.

btw, do u believe in classical liberalism or new liberalism?

ps: im not against u. i just want to know ur views.

Anonymous said...

u said, "I think it may take as long as Burmese like you keep on asking that stupid question rather than strive for liberal democracy"

u also said, "Liberal democracy has principles, institutions and processes. Unless its principles are observed, its institutions are established and its processes are developed, liberal democracy doesn't exist."

so how do i strive for liberal democracy when i don't see the foundation - principles and institutions.

u don't know the answer and play down the question as a stupid question. wat a funny man u r.

btw, do u believe in classical liberalism or new liberalism?

ps: im not against u. i just want to know ur views.

မ်ဳိးျမင့္ေမာင္ said...

BurmeseBullDog,

The reason why I said you had asked me a stupid question is because you asked me how many years I would need to establish liberal democracy in Burma. I really think that's a stupid question. What a stupid person you are!

How could you strive of liberal democracy unless you see its foundation in existence? What a stupid person you are! Start striving for the foundation itself. Isn't a foundation of something a part of it? Don't make me think of you as a retard.

At this point of time, I am a follower of neither classical liberalism nor new/social liberalism. I still need to learn a lot about political ideologies in order to decide to follow one or none at all.

မ်ဳိးျမင့္ေမာင္ said...

Correction - "How could you strive "for" democracy..."

Burmese Gold Bull said...

Haha Myo Myint Maung,

Attacking me personally, calling names. Wat a lowly behavior!

And u dare to talk about liberal democracy while u can’t even hold a proper conversation with a person with different view. Im appalled.

But I can understand ur behavior. U r a Burmese and u r from that place.

ကုိေပါ said...

BurmeseGoldBull,

Again, you are dodging MMM's question. Instead of answering the question in a straightforward manner, you try to shift the focus.

Answer his question.

မ်ဳိးျမင့္ေမာင္ said...

Well, who say that one can't remark another person as stupid under a liberal democracy? I can openly and frankly tell you what I think of you as long as I have valid reasons for doing so. If I find you evil, I can say that you're evil. Likewise, if I find you stupid, I can say so. I'm not calling you stupid for having different views. I really think you are stupid. Why? Read my previous posts again.

Burmese Gold Bull said...

Appalling behavior from a Burmese who believe in democracy. Carry on, and u’ll get a democracy something like in Zimbabwe.
What is the question? Rephrase again. But don’t forget to answer my two questions.

မ်ဳိးျမင့္ေမာင္ said...

BurmeseGoldBull,

You're not a Burmese indeed. You're a bull! That's why you're stupid. Haha!

Burmese Gold Bull said...

carry on.. show everybody ur true color.. :D.

မ်ဳိးျမင့္ေမာင္ said...

BurmeseGoldBull,

If you can read, you could have read my direct answers for your questions. Sorry that I am not polite to a bull. I don't like animals.

Burmese Gold Bull said...

start to learn to have a proper conversation first...

my question again -

How many years do you need to establish liberal democracy in Burma?

မ်ဳိးျမင့္ေမာင္ said...

BurmeseGoldBull

Well, I've always said what I think and shown who I am. I don't even use a nickname. Do you dare reveal yourself, too? I don't think so. You are a scared little bull. Haha!

Burmese Gold Bull said...

its for u to find out... u have my email.


my question again -

How many years do you need to establish liberal democracy in Burma?

မ်ဳိးျမင့္ေမာင္ said...

BurmeseGoldBull,

See, you're really stupid though you don't like me saying so. I've told you that I can't answer that question because I can neither establish liberal democracy in Burma alone myself nor foresee the future. Perhaps, if you can get me a magic wand, I can establish liberal democracy in Burma within a split second. Whew...how many times are you gonna ask me that stupid question? Think carefully before you ask questions! Don't just ask questions pointlessly!

Burmese Gold Bull said...

haha.. Myo Myint Maung,

glad that u r learning..

မ်ဳိးျမင့္ေမာင္ said...

BurmeseGoldBull,

I know that your email is burmesegoldbull@gmail.com. You don't even dare to use your real name for your email. Well, why should I bother to find out your identity while you don't dare to reveal it yourself? If you dare reveal who you are, do so. If you don't, I won't force you. But, admit that you're scared.

မ်ဳိးျမင့္ေမာင္ said...

BurmeseGoldBull,

Well, I'm really annoyed that you're not learning at all. I feel like I'm playing harp to a cow. What a waste of time! This is my last comment for you.

Burmese Gold Bull said...

haha Myo Myint Maung,

i aldy told u its for u to find out.

i u don't bother, don't ask. i won't call u stupid.. :D

Burmese Gold Bull said...

u can say wat ever u think u should say. it only reveal ur true color.

:D.

မ်ဳိးျမင့္ေမာင္ said...

BurmeseGoldBull,

Don't be childish. You're not cute being childish. Grow up!

Anonymous said...

Com’on Myo Myint Maung..

Who is being childish? Me?

Don’t be a flip-flop.

People won’t believe u anymore.

U r the one who ask me to reveal my name, then u said u can’t be bother abt it.

U r the one who said that u won’t be replying my comments and continued to reply.

U r the one who started to attack me even though I explained to u since the beginning that I was not against u.

U r the one who can’t stop ur accusation and name calling.

U don't even have a general idea of how many year it will take to Establish liberal democracy in Myanmar coz u nvr do that b4.

all u can do is name calling.

Continue to do that, and u will succeed in achieving liberal democracy – albeit it’s the Zimbabwe version!

မ်ဳိးျမင့္ေမာင္ said...

BurmeseGoldBull,

You asked me how many years I would need to establish liberal democracy in Burma. You must know that establishing democracy successfully demands the cooperation of a lot people and depends on lots of circumstances. It's not an exact science. The most important thing is we must try as hard as we can to achieve it as soon as possible if we really want it.

I asked you only whether you dare reveal your name. Did I ever ask you what your name is? You must first learn to read properly, or you will remain retarded.

What is your point to keep on asking me how many years I would need to establish liberal democracy, whether I believe in classical liberalism or new liberalism, etc.? You never discussed the topics further. What do you want? Attention? If so, you are pathetic!

Burmese Gold Bull said...

u said, "You asked me how many years I would need to establish liberal democracy in Burma. You must know that establishing democracy successfully demands the cooperation of a lot people and depends on lots of circumstances. It's not an exact science. The most important thing is we must try as hard as we can to achieve it as soon as possible if we really want it."

For that, i'll give u some marks. Not a bad answer!

u said, "I asked you only whether you dare reveal your name. Did I ever ask you what your name is?

Did i say u asked me my name?

u said, "You must first learn to read properly, or you will remain retarded."

who must fist learn to read? Who is attacking again?

How do i continue to discuss the topics again if u know only to attack me?

မ်ဳိးျမင့္ေမာင္ said...

BurmeseGoldBull,

Ok, you accepted my answer for your very first question. But, you haven't answered me what your point for asking that question is. You also asked me whether I believe in classical liberalism or new liberalism, and I've given my answer for that as well. However, again, you still haven't answer me why you asked me the second question. Don't avoid answering my questions by making a fuss about my calling you stupid (I have a reason for it and told you why).

Did I ever ask you to reveal your name? In other words, did I ever ask your name and who you are? I just asked you whether you dare to reveal your name. I also told you that you can reveal your name only if you dare and that I wouldn't force you if you don't. That's why I said I wouldn't bother to find out who you are myself. Read properly and try to remember what you said.

You said, "U r the one who ask me to reveal my name, then u said u can’t be bother abt it."

After all, what, how and why do you want to discuss with me?

မ်ဳိးျမင့္ေမာင္ said...

BurmeseGoldBull,

By the way, thanks for giving me some marks for my answer for your first question. Somehow, I do try to give you some credit for what you've said and done. Then, I find no credit you are worthy of.

Burmese Gold Bull said...

Myo Myint Maung..

It seems all u know how to do is calling names and attacking. U do it best.
Btw, u aldy said, “This is my last comment for you”. Then why r u here? R u a real flip-flop? Ppl will lose trust in u. now u aldy reveal too much true color of u. Ppl aldy know that u r nothing but a charlatan who only know how to attack like a fool.

Anyway, as I said previously, im not surprised nor disappointed ‘coz I don’t expect anything remarkable frm ppl like u. I noe u r only capable of attacking ppl like a mad dog and calling names without any good objectives.

Why I ask u the second question? Wat is the use of telling u why since u aldy admitted that u don’t noe anything abt them. So forget abt. Just keep in ur mind that I ask coz I wnt to ask.

If u r not bother by identity, don’t talk abt it. Don’t make a fuss out of nothing.

After all my question was a simple one sentence question – “How many years do you need to establish liberal democracy in Burma?”

And u become a fool just by looking at this question. :D

မ်ဳိးျမင့္ေမာင္ said...

BurmeseGoldBull,

I don't care what you think of me. You're just a nobody.

မ်ဳိးျမင့္ေမာင္ said...

BurmeseGoldBull,

You can keep on writing whatever stupid things that come to your mind. So what? - You're just a nobody.

မ်ဳိးျမင့္ေမာင္ said...

I will no longer answer any pointless question of BurmeseGoldBull for two reasons. First, he asks questions because he just wants to ask questions without any good purpose. Second, he is just a nobody.

If there is someone else, with a real identity, who sincerely wants to know my answers for the questions of BurmeseGoldBull, please go ahead and ask me the questions again. I will not hesitate to answer them.

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