“သိန္းစိန္သစ္ခြ”

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ေမာင္ညီမေလးတုိ႔ေရ.....

ျမန္မာ၀န္ႀကီးခ်ဳပ္ ဗုိလ္ခ်ဳပ္ႀကီးသိန္းစိန္တေယာက္ ေရွ႕လာမယ့္ သီတင္းပတ္ထဲမွာ စကၤာပူနဲ႔ အင္ဒုိနီးရွားကုိ အလည္အပတ္ လာမလုိ႔တဲ့ကြယ္။

ခ်င္က်ားပူ ဆုိတဲ့ ႏုိင္ငံႀကီးကလည္း အိမ္နီးခ်င္းေကာင္းပီသစြာ လႈိက္လႈိက္လွဲလွဲ ႀကဳိဆုိမွာ ျဖစ္တဲ့အျပင္ ခရီးစဥ္ရဲ႕ တစိတ္တေဒသအျဖစ္ လာမယ့္ ဗုဒၶဟူးေန႔ ႐ုကၡေဗဒဥယ်ာဥ္ (Botanic Gardens)အတြင္းမွာ ဦးဦးသိန္းစိန္အတြက္ “သစ္ခြအမည္ေပးအခမ္းအနား” တရပ္နဲ႔ ႀကဳိဆုိဂုဏ္ျပဳသြားမွာ ျဖစ္ေၾကာင္း ေျပာေရးဆုိခြင့္ရွိသူအမ်ဳိးသမီးက ႐ုိက္တာသတင္းဌာနကုိ ေျပာၾကားသြားေသးသတဲ့။

ဘန္ေကာက္ အေျခစုိက္ “Forum for Democracy in Myanmar” အဖြဲ႕မွ ေျပာေရးဆုိခြင့္ရွိသူ ကုိစုိးေအာင္ကေတာ့ “သစ္ခြပန္းကုိ သိန္းစိန္ရဲ႕နာမည္ ေပးတာကေတာ့ အဆိပ္ပင္ကုိ ေရေလာင္းတာထက္ေတာင္ ဆုိးရြားပါေသးတယ္” တဲ့ကြယ္။

အင္း....... ဒီပုံအတုိင္းဆုိရင္ ေမာင္ညီမေလးတုိ႔လုိ ခ်င္က်ားပူေရာက္ ျမန္မာမေလးေတြအေနနဲ႔ ေနာင္အခါမွာ “သိန္းစိန္” အမည္ရွိ သစ္ခြလွလွေလးေတြကုိ ရင္ခုန္မက္ေမာစြာ ပန္ဆင္ႏုိင္ၾကမယ္ဆုိတဲ့အေၾကာင္း.......ဒီတပတ္အဖုိ႔ သတင္းေကာင္းပါးရင္း တင္ဆက္လုိက္ရပါတယ္ကြယ္။


မူရင္းသတင္း အေသးစိတ္ကုိ ဖတ္႐ႈခ်င္ရင္ေတာ့....

13 comments:

JulyDream said...

တစ္ခြ မဟုတ္ဘူးလား ဟင္...

တစ္တစ္ခြခြ ေပါ့...

MyowinZaw said...

အန္ျခင္လုိက္တာ

Anonymous said...

ေအာ္ ..ဒီလိုေတြလည္းရွိပါလား။
သိရိွသြားပါတယ္။အားမငယ္ပါနဲ႔ေနာ္။ မ်ားတို႔ စာဖတ္သူေတြကလည္း ပိေတာက္ပန္းတစ္မ်ိဳးကို ကိုေပါပိေတာက္ လို႔အမည္ေပးထားသားပဲဟာ။

ၾကည္

Anonymous said...

aww ..
When Thein Sein come the flower name become "Thein Sein Pan"

If Than Shwe come the flower name may become "Shwe Pan"

sin dan lar said...

အဲဒီသစ္ခြက ဝတ္မႈန္တစ္ျခမ္းပဲပါမွာလား....
ဆံပင္ကိုဝတ္မႈန္လိုျမင္မိလို႕ ရယ္စရာေတြးမိသြားတာပါ...။
သူတပါးရဲ႕ အသြင္ပံုပန္းကိုေလွာင္ေျပာင္ျခင္း မဟုတ္ပါ။

ျပည္ေက်ာင္းသား said...

သူ႔သမီးသာတက္ခြခ်င္ေတာ့တယ္ဗ်ာ
ဲျဲပည္မွာတက္တုန္းက အဲဒီေကာင္မကို ျပန္ေပးဆြဲမလို႔ၾကံတာမေအာင္လို႔ေပါ့

CMA said...

တခါက ဇာတ္အဖြဲ႕တဖဲြ႕ရဲ႕ မင္းသားနာမည္ေတြကို သြားသတိရလိုက္မိတယ္။ ပုလင္းစိန္၊ ဖလ္ခြက္စိန္၊ အျမည္းစိန္၊ (တခုက်န္ေသးတယ္ ထင္တာပဲ..)။ ဒါဆို ဒီသစ္ခြကိုလည္း ကာရံညီညီေလး ေခၚလိုက္ခ်င္တာကေတာ့.. ေဟာဒီလိုပါတဲ့ရွင္၊ အဲ့ ေယာင္လို႔ေနာ္..ခင္ဗ်ား..၊ ( _ _ _ ) ၿပီးခဲ့တဲ့ ပို႔စ္တ္က ကဗ်ာေလးအတိုင္း ကြက္လပ္ျဖည့္ပါ..။ :D

Anonymous said...

ကို CMAေရ
အေျဖ = လသိန္းစိန္ :D:D:D

LaYeak said...
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LaYeak said...

I would like to share some comments from singaporeans here. You can check the link below.

http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/03/singapore-to-name-orchid-after-burmese-junta-leader/

Comments
43 Responses to “Singapore to name orchid after Burmese junta leader”

1) smallvice585 on March 15th, 2009 9.08 am

The nice thing about having an Orchid called Thein Sein is that you can burn it without going to jail.

2) rico on March 15th, 2009 9.33 am

To smallvice585,
If someone sees you burning a Thein Sein orchid, the police will soon be knocking on your door. However, if you are beaten up in a busy MRT station, the police will say they can’t do anything and advise you to “move on”.

3) Loyola on March 15th, 2009 10.18 am

I suspect this is part of the whole ’soft power’ engagement. But it sickens me to have this idiot walk through Botanic Gardens.

4) David on March 15th, 2009 10.45 am

I pity the orchid and hope it doesn’t display in the orchid garden for tourists to spit on.


5) insane on March 15th, 2009 11.24 am

speechless and dumbfounded, most burmese left opression and surpresssion, only to be what I don’t know. they left a condition for a good condition!

6) ash on March 15th, 2009 12.44 pm

what a pity. i pity the orchid !

7) youngman on March 15th, 2009 1.40 pm

I can understand if our govt wants to be diplomatic with foreign leaders.
But the gesture of naming a local orchid hybrid after a member of the
ruthless dictatorship is overboard.
What’s next? To invite Gen Than Shwe or Mugabe and give them with
the nation’s highest award for oppression to their own citizens?

8) Daniel on March 15th, 2009 2.01 pm

How dare Singapore government discredit the peaceful nature of flower by associating our flower with foreigner “murderers” due to economic interest ? By doing so, our government has increased the face of wrath of nature. Didn’t we have lightning strike on Merlion ?

Name of Orchid ? Junta Orchid ? Oppressor Orchid ? Killer Orchid ?

9) Steven on March 15th, 2009 2.19 pm

There is something severely wrong with our decision makers receiving million dollar salaries.

10) New Crime in Burma on March 15th, 2009 2.20 pm

10 Years Prison for burning Orchids

11) no orchids for brutes on March 15th, 2009 2.35 pm

What an irony to name such a beautiful flower like the orchid after a
human brute from the Burmese Junta !

What a damn shame for S’pore to honour such a man !

Wouldn’t it make more sense to name the orchid after Ms Au San Suu Kyi ?

What the hell is our people in Botanical Gardens thinking ?
unless the idea came from our own despotic leadership.

Perhaps to make our orchids world famous,
we need to name more of them after infamous people.

12) Joshua Wong on March 15th, 2009 2.39 pm

It does seem to TOC readers that to do this seems to be giving a diplomatic courtesy to the junta leader beyond what is expected of normal diplomacy.

However, let us try to understand why our leaders made this decision. We surely cannot assume they are plain stupid and have not considered the implications of doing so. If so, what could be the other factors at play here that encouraged them to do so?

If you want to oppose the decision, it is important to consider and understand what the government thinks instead on focussing on what is obvious to all.

Here are some concerns they might have and some have already pointed them out:

1) Self-interest. We trade with Burma and from a purely selfish basis we want to be on as good terms with them as possible.

2) Soft power engagement. We hope that by establishing friendly terms with them the Myanmar govt will be more pliant and receptive to our suggestions in the future. This might turn out to help the burmese more in the long run.

Ultimately, while the military junta might be immoral and unjust, the way for us to deal with it has to be wise and balanced. In this case, perhaps some might feel the naming is going too far, but others might not. We have a right to complain, but the government has the right to make the decision.

13) Andrew Loh on March 15th, 2009 2.43 pm

Just about a month ago, a group of us saw off a Burmese at the airport. He had been working in S’pore for 14 years and never had any trouble with the law. He was one of those who helped us build some of our infrastructure such as the Circle Line.

He then took part in the Orchard Road protest against the Burmese brutal crackdown in 2007. He wasn’t part of any group. Just an ordinary Burmese who wanted to show his solidarity with his suffering fellow citizens.

The S’pore govt decided not to renew his work permit and asked him to leave S’pore. He has now received asylum status from some NGOs in Jakarta, the last I heard.

And here we are, rolling out the red carpet for one of those who belong to the murderous regime, what is effectively a band of murderers.

Here is what our PM said of the regime in June 2007:

“”We should not, because of Myanmar, forsake the cooperation, the relationship, the mutual exchange and enrichment which is waiting to take place and I believe that this message has had some effect.”

– International Herald Tribune

What “cooperation”?

What “relationship”?

What “mutual exchange”?

What “effect”?

Naming an orchid after a murderer is just plain nauseating.

I wish my government had more backbone and not prostitute itself and my country to criminals like these brutes.

14) Shame on those who support tyrants on March 15th, 2009 4.31 pm

Shame on the PAP government who honour tyrant to suppress its citizens.

15) Sin Land on March 15th, 2009 4.40 pm

It seems that this country Singapore is cursed

by its’ very own inhabitants everyday.

Is this the beginning of the End ?
16) Ah Hock on March 15th, 2009 5.24 pm

“Asesina Ano Thein Sein” would be fitting. Means murderous ******* Thein Sein in Spanish.


17) mars on March 15th, 2009 5.50 pm

Sure, let him name the orchid but name it after Nobel laurette, Aung San Suu Kyi.

18) Rurehe on March 15th, 2009 7.12 pm

Do we name an orchid ater PM Thein Sein because we sell mines, guns , bombs and other deadly forms of munitions that maim and mangle the bodies of some poor minority group members?

As a Sing person I say we can do without the profits. We want to love our fellow human beings.

Our garmen is so greedy it has to all it can to sell its arms and it is most profitable.

I am ashamed.

19) Enigmatic on March 15th, 2009 7.33 pm

Seems like an act of deflowering………

20) A Kaung Oo on March 15th, 2009 7.38 pm

As a rich country in ASEAN, Singapore government, should not have good relationship with Junta government if Singapore government respects human right and ordinary Myanmar citizens.

Dear Ordinary Singapore citizens,

Please ask your government administration, not to support Junta. Supporting Junta is really dangerous for ordinary Myanmar citizens.

From the Heart of Myanmar Citizens!

21) panther on March 15th, 2009 7.57 pm

This isn’t even an issue to start with.

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22) David on March 15th, 2009 10.00 pm

By endorsing Junta Leader, with the naming of our orchid after him, is telling the whole world that Singapore and Junta are birds of the same feather. Dr Chee Soon Juan has already cautioned Singapore towards moving in similar direction and he was threw into prison. Now, we are beginning to see some truth in his words and the lights are getting clearer. Don’t we?

23) gj on March 15th, 2009 10.13 pm

What an insult to the orchid!

24) wkc on March 15th, 2009 10.31 pm

#12

“Soft power engagement. We hope that by establishing friendly terms with them the Myanmar govt will be more pliant and receptive to our suggestions in the future. This might turn out to help the burmese more in the long run.”

Surely you jest!

25) Loyola on March 15th, 2009 10.41 pm

wkc 24,

It is a part of our FP. Soft power has its place in the toolkit of all states’ diplomacy.

Even the Great Powers do it. But I still personally find it abhorrent, while understanding that on a realist, Morgenthau-istic pov, it is a logical tool.

26) Daniel on March 15th, 2009 10.57 pm

“2) Soft power engagement. We hope that by establishing friendly terms with them the Myanmar govt will be more pliant and receptive to our suggestions in the future. This might turn out to help the burmese more in the long run.”

Every country without moral to consider can say this easily too, don’t they ? So what’s stopping other country then ?

Opppsss.. someone collude with the Japanese as japanese translator in WW2, and did they say something like “at least I’m indirectly helping the people when I work with the japanese !” !

Oppsss… we may just have a exchange programme here. How about inviting the oldman to Burma and name the Burma’s orchid as Leechid ?

27) Daniel on March 15th, 2009 11.03 pm

Maybe name the Orchid as OMD (Orchid of Mass Destruction) as it symbolize selling Singapore-made weapons and ammunition to the junta military.

28) notalone on March 15th, 2009 11.41 pm

Friends, take it easy…

Think of it, the cost of naming a flower after a person versus the benefits that our country can get…

stock price of ST Engineering depends on this.

29) orchid brand weapons on March 15th, 2009 11.49 pm

@ 26 Daniel,

All the different category of weapons we export to the Burmese Junta
should be named after our orchids.
It will be a good brand name for weapons designed and manufactured in S’pore and our govt can claim to the world they are exporting orchids.

@ 12 Joshua,
You can try to understand how this damned govt thinks but not me.
It does not matter any more.

30) notalone on March 15th, 2009 11.57 pm

Friends, take it easy…

Think of it, the cost of naming a flower after a person versus the benefits that our country can get…

Stock price of ST Engineering depends on this, so is our NODEX and GDP, and the civil servants’ salaries.

31) Daniel on March 16th, 2009 12.25 am

“Think of it, the cost of naming a flower after a person versus the benefits that our country can get…”

The decision and karma we make in the past and present will come back to haunt us in the future. When the oldman dies, it is payback’s time for Singapore.

32) Loyola on March 16th, 2009 12.40 am

Burma doesn’t have the money to buy our increasingly expensive weapon systems. Why should we aim for them when we can sell to the Brits and Indians.

33) notalone on March 16th, 2009 12.52 am

#32

Brits and Indians are in the space-age technology, where are we?

Burma can still afford low quality products and stone-age weapons.

34) Daniel on March 16th, 2009 1.00 am

“Burma doesn’t have the money to buy our increasingly expensive weapon systems. Why should we aim for them when we can sell to the Brits and Indians.”

Burma doesn’t have money ? Are you talking about junta or the people of Burma ? It is the junta that buy the weapons to destroy the people of Burma. Junta confiscate the wealth of Burma for themselves, don’t they ?

“Why should we aim for them when we can sell to the Brits and Indians.”
When did business has limit ? Singapore can sell to Brits and Indians if they want it, no one stopping them anyway.
Of course, selling to Junta means higher premium profit since other countries may not want to do business with junta openly. Opps… We may even need Junta to help out if our oldman call for army during freak election… Remember our SAF never have experience of killing innocent people but Junta does.

35) Loyola on March 16th, 2009 2.09 am

34 Daniel,

If you think Burma are in the big leagues of defence procurements at the moment, you are sorely mistaken. What everyone has been selling to them has been nothing more than simple weaponry that is hardly the sole premise of any nation.

And your point about suppressing the citizenry, do you really believe that this will happen here? C’mon, take a reality check and look at the overriding national interest of Singapore and you will realise that sustaining a projected reputation ranks higher than metaphorical ideology.

There will be no use of the army in Singapore, because that is tantamount to contravention of the Constitution and smells like an illegal coup, which will never be tolerated. Never.

36) Daniel on March 16th, 2009 2.25 am

“’mon, take a reality check and look at the overriding national interest of Singapore and you will realise that sustaining a projected reputation ranks higher than metaphorical ideology.”

Reality check ? Who expect Singapore to lose unprecedented billions… and not even LKY ? So what cannot be happen to Singapore ? It is beyond our control ?
If other countries doing it, should our government follow it ? If other country suppressing the citizen, should our government do the same. Monkey see, monkey do ?
Never say never because many of the things that we thought will never appear, appear before our eyes in Singapore, didn’t we ?

37) Loyola on March 16th, 2009 7.46 am

36 Daniel,

“Never say never because many of the things that we thought will never appear, appear before our eyes in Singapore, didn’t we ?”

Well, they didn’t surprise me…

38) give me hell, yea! on March 16th, 2009 8.09 am

wherever he walks, plants die. whenever he speaks, the air is poisoned.
whatever he touches, it rusts and rots.

39) khoo hung kim on March 16th, 2009 12.14 pm
Hello “Youngman” (7).
I’m an old man. What’s wrong with inviting Mugabe or Gen Than Shwe? Are they obnoxious people.? You know them well or you had been influenced by BBC broadcasts or Ex -President Bush speeches.?
The Burmese are intelligent people. They elected their government. If the government turns out to be no good, then they must find ways to get rid of them even if they have to lay down their lives by so doing. No one else can help the Burmese. A small pocket of demonstrations here and there does not indicate that the Burmese government is all bad. (Or else China is the greatest evil country on earth because of demonstrations by the tibetan people)
Gen Thein Sein must have done something good for Singapore. So i do not think there is any thing wrong to name an orchid after him.
As Singaporeans we must always remember that other people’s enemies are not necessarily our enemies. If we ever take such a stand we’ll never have anyone as our friend.Let’s take Malaysia as the first example. Even as the closest neighbours they have perpetually threatened to cut off water supplies to our country. They refused to sell sand to Singapore when we need sand for our development. They need our tourist dollars. But when our people visit the country.our people get mugged. Take Indonesia. as another example. During the 2004 tsunami we poured millions to help them. They too have stopped the sale of sand even they need the money for their poor. I’m sure our country is waiting to have our orchids named after some Malaysians or Indonesians

40) KS on March 16th, 2009 1.46 pm

Can’t believe I’m reading this.
No wonder LKY sanctions the use of any brute force on his own citizens should there be a freak election result.

41) good values attract friends on March 16th, 2009 2.22 pm

@ 39, hello old man, I am also old lah.

How do you know Thein Sein has done something good for S’pore ? Same applies to you, do you know him or did our political leaders personally told you so ? Or was it strictly a personal relationship between Thein Sein and some of our leaders ?

By your reasoning the Burmese are intelligent people and have elected their govt, then the North Koreans must have elected Kim’s govt also and the same can be said of the Iraqis when Sadam was alive. So the perception of Myanmar Junta by the entire world is wrong by your logic. Have you forgotten that Aung San Suu Kyi who was elected is still under house arrest ? Why don’t you ask George Yeo for an honest answer? You know who is George Yeo right ?

Again by your reasoning, the small pockets of demonstrations does not indicate the burmese govt is all bad, then the same applies to the North Korean govt under Kim and also the Iraqi govt under Sadam when he was alive. In fact the latter govts must be even better because I don’t think there was ever any kind of demonstration in the first place.
So you are implying no demonstration = good govt

You should take note that eventhough the US is not well liked, the truth is, S’pore owes its security in this part of the world to them. Again ask George Yeo why we offer them to set up base in S’pore.
Just remember that there are certain values worth upholding, because the citizens of the world may feel S’pore is not worth protecting when the crunch comes. And I believe the incumbent US President takes public opinion seriously.

As for muggings that you have mentioned, do take note that Malaysian citizens are victims also. Criminals target only those who are indiscreet and give themselves away as being wealthy. Why don’t you ask the Malaysians themselves ? By the way, did any past or present Malaysian PM threatened to cut our water supply ? Or were such threats made by politicians trying to score points? Think lah, as a fellow old man I know a few statements from opportunistic politicians do not represent the govt and its people.

And the issue of not being able to buy sand, it is all about price lah !
Make a good offer where the supplier cannnot refuse. Isn’t it about buying and selling ? Afterall it is our neighbours soil right ? By the way did Mah B T personally grumble to you and told you how unreasonable our neighbours have been ? Frankly I am not surprise we do not have friends in this region, go and figure this out. The clue my fellow old man , lies with how this govt treats its own ctizens. Have a nice day and good health.

42) laworder on March 16th, 2009 2.23 pm
Joshua Wong wrote: 2) Soft power engagement. We hope that by establishing friendly terms with them the Myanmar govt will be more pliant and receptive to our suggestions in the future. This might turn out to help the burmese more in the long run.

WE AS A NATION MAY ENGAGE IN SOFT POWER WITH THE BURMESE GOV WITHOUT THE NEED TO NAME PLANTS AFTER THESE PEOPLE WHO COMMITTED CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.

WHAT ARE OUR LEADERS THINKING? WHAT ETHICAL CONSIDERATIONS HAVE THEY MADE BEFORE COMING TO THIS DECISION?

WILL FUTURE LEADERS, US, UK…. VISIT THE BOTANIC GARDEN AFTER THIS? HUMAN RIGHT ACTIVISTS MAY REMIND THEM OF THIS PLACE.

43) jane on March 16th, 2009 3.02 pm

KILLER ORCHID !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

44) Zefly (aka Joshua Chiang) on March 16th, 2009 3.06 pm

We must impose economic sanctions on the orchid. No fertilizer or watering for the orchid. The orchid must be left to fend for itself until it repents.

LaYeak said...

50) jane on March 16th, 2009 4.04 pm


Will the Botanic garden put up …

The “DANGER” sign near this particular orchid?

Or CCTV camera ( surely in operation 24 hr , not like the one at detention center )?

Sign of “Fine S$ 1000 for spitting at the orchid” ?

ေမာင္လမ္းသစ္ said...

ကိုေပါနဲ႕ ကိုမ်ိဳးျမင့္ေအာင္ေရ ဘေလာ့ေပၚမွာပဲ အစိုးရကို ရြဲ႕ေျပာလိုက္ ေစာင္းေျပာလိုက္ ဆဲလိုက္နဲ႕ ေလတိုက္ပြဲ ဆင္ႏႊဲမေနပါနဲ႕၊ သတၱိရိွရင္ လက္ေတြ႕က်က် ၀န္ၾကီးခ်ဳပ္ စင္ကၤာပူေရာက္တုန္း လမ္းေပၚထြက္ၿပီး ဆႏၵျပပါ့လား၊ဒီ အခြင့္အေရး လက္လႊတ္မခံသင့္ဘူးေနာ္၊ ဟီးဟီး

မိုးခါး said...

သစ္ခြကိုပါ ေရာမုန္းမိေတာ့မယ္ .. မုန္းလိုက္တာ

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